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Old 10-22-2007, 08:16 AM Char is offline     #11 (permalink)
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No he didn't. Equally baffled I'm afraid; did I blink and miss something? Or have one of us Brits inadvertently said something unsuitable? If so, I apologise, but can't for the life of me see what it was.

A new thread on English/American language differences may be in order)
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:41 AM Happyscot is offline     #12 (permalink)
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Must have! There are a few posts that have been eliminated from this thread.

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I think you need to have a word with some of your fellow stewards. So far this morning, I've had a pm from one steward giving me a good telling off for referring in the mildest possible terms and indirectly to you know what in a mildly ironic fashion (end of page above) so as to draw attention to the fact that we had, a few posts earlier, been wrongly accused of referring to you know what and of swearing. This steward appeared convinced that "Bushville", a freindly term for America here, was a you know what word. Obvioulsy he went to different you know what lessons to the rest of us.

Then, an hour or so later, bafflement reached new heights when I received something called an "infraction" (the word isn't in my dictionary) for using a perfectly normal German phrase which your leader appears to have mistaken for some kind of Hitlerite greeting. Apparently German is, and I quote, an "inappropriate language".

Then a third one giving me 8 and a half million frubals. Confusing, what, old bean?

I trhink there's a bit of an anti-Brit thing going on here, and I'm offski until you can work out whether we are welcome or not.

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Old 10-22-2007, 10:13 AM canarymoon is offline     #13 (permalink)
Perhaps your dictionaary is inadequate

An Infraction in legal sense (minor offense, minor violation, petty offense, or frequently citation, sometimes used as synonymous with violation, regulatory offense, welfare offense, or contravention) is a "petty" violation of the law less serious than a misdemeanor.
Typically, an infraction is a violation of a rule or local ordinance or regulation.



Old 10-22-2007, 10:17 AM 3rdGenCunarder is offline     #14 (permalink)
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I had no trouble getting ice in restaurants although come to think of it, I was asked if I wanted ice in my drinks some of the time.
It's your accent. We've had English bartenders say "You're American, you'll want ice in that, right?" (I may once have replied by asking the bartender if he needed the recipe)

They also don't serve beer ice cold in England. I find this to be a vast improvement over the way we excessively chill beer over here. When it's too cold you can't taste it--of cource, their beer is more worth tasting. God bless CAMRA! (the CAMpain for Read Ale!)

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Old 10-22-2007, 10:46 AM Happyscot is offline     #15 (permalink)
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Perhaps your dictionaary is inadequate

An Infraction in legal sense (minor offense, minor violation, petty offense, or frequently citation, sometimes used as synonymous with violation, regulatory offense, welfare offense, or contravention) is a "petty" violation of the law less serious than a misdemeanor.
Typically, an infraction is a violation of a rule or local ordinance or regulation.

Ah, thank you. I think it must be more of an American word.

So speaking German is not only inappropriate, but a violation of a rule.

On which planet would that be?

German and Austrian prisons must be very busy.

Oh and I like warm beer too. There is a CAMRA award-winning pub next to my home. I frequently get them confused.



Old 10-22-2007, 12:42 PM jp20 is offline     #16 (permalink)
I enjoyed reading this thread but could we get back to the topic? I've never had the honor to visit England but I plan to in the future, what else can I look forward too? or miss that I take for granted here in the U.S.

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Old 10-22-2007, 12:55 PM NomDePlume is offline     #17 (permalink)
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I enjoyed reading this thread but could we get back to the topic? I've never had the honor to visit England but I plan to in the future, what else can I look forward too? or miss that I take for granted here in the U.S.
Well, for one, there are its people. Mind you, physically, they may look just like you, and use the same words (more or less) than you do, smile like you, etc. But they possess a wit that's quite unlike yours. I'm not saying that it's better or worse. It's different. The major difference that I have observed for the past 38 years is that they use the language in a different way. They play with it. They make you think. They make you cry or laugh with it in a way no other language does. Because each language--and the people that use it as their own--has its own subtle and amazing differences.
When you go to the United Kingdom--and I sincerely hope you do--make listening at least as important as looking a part of your total experience. I did. And loved it. And am still learning from it every day.

Very sincerely,

Marie-Louise
who is neither American nor Canadian, Brit, Scot, Irish, or Welsh, but adores the language with all it's accents.



Old 10-22-2007, 01:35 PM 3rdGenCunarder is offline     #18 (permalink)
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Well, for one, there are its people. Mind you, physically, they may look just like you, and use the same words (more or less) than you do, smile like you, etc. But they possess a wit that's quite unlike yours. I'm not saying that it's better or worse. It's different. The major difference that I have observed for the past 38 years is that they use the language in a different way. They play with it. They make you think. They make you cry or laugh with it in a way no other language does. Because each language--and the people that use it as their own--has its own subtle and amazing differences.
When you go to the United Kingdom--and I sincerely hope you do--make listening at least as important as looking a part of your total experience. I did. And loved it. And am still learning from it every day.

Very sincerely,

Marie-Louise
who is neither American nor Canadian, Brit, Scot, Irish, or Welsh, but adores the language with all it's accents.
I agree, except for the Welsh part. Someone tried to teach me to pronounce that double L and I almost swallowed my tongue!

One thing I would ask any visitor to the UK is NOT to run to McD's or KFC, etc when you're in London (or anywhere else you are). I remember on our second or third trip, we took this very touristy but very fun 'bus ride to murder' that took us to the jack the ripper sites, etc in London. We heard some Americans on the bus going on and on about how happy they were to have found a KFC or some such thing. Don't eat in American chain restaurants--go local. Try the pubs. Try the local food. For all the jokes about 'British cuisine' being an oxymoron, you can find great food in local restaurants. Sit at the bar and chat with the bartender--you'll learn a lot.

As for things to see, since jp20 wants to go back OT, there is far too much to see in dozens of trips (trust me, we've tried!). You have to tailor your trips to your own likes. We like museums and theater. And not just in London. We've been to plays in Bath, York, Scarborough (a theater owned by Alan Aykbourn!), mystery plays in Chester, outdoor Shakespeare in Kent. We've been to most of the Roman sites, and lots of industrial museums.

If you like hiking or walking the British countryside will take your breath away. Everything is so GREEN. (Of course, that's becasue God waters it a lot! ) And there are lots of public walking trails. My 80-something English relatives still like to walk in the Yorkshire Dales, although not as far as they used to.

If you're thinking about going to England, do research! Read travel books, go to travel websites. The best use of the collective brains on a site like this is to ask specific questions (Like is it worth it to ride the London Eye?). If you do some research, the answer to your question will be: you'll look forward to a wonderful trip!

Kathy



Old 10-22-2007, 01:53 PM pnhmrk is offline     #19 (permalink)
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God bless CAMRA! (the CAMpain for Read Ale!)
Have you tried either the Spread Eagle in Leeds or the Blue Bell in York?



Old 10-22-2007, 01:56 PM NomDePlume is offline     #20 (permalink)
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Have you tried the Blue Bell in York?
Just point me in the right direction...



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