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    tropical storm lana discussion number 10
    nws central pacific hurricane center honolulu hi ep062009
    1100 am hst sat aug 01 2009

    the cloud pattern of tropical storm lana has weakened rapidly since
    late last night. Most of the active convection has dissipated...the
    higher cloud tops are shifting off to the north northeast...and the
    low level center is becoming exposed. These are good indications
    that southwest shear is weakening the storm.

    Last night locating the center of lana was problematical...but a
    series of microwave and visible satellite images have allowed us to
    locate the center with high confidence. These images have also given
    us good confidence that the storm is being sheared as expected.

    The forecast track follows the previous package closely with a
    slight shift to the south. Lana continues to move westward to the
    south of a low and mid-level subtropical ridge. The mid level ridge
    is expected to continue building westward in phase with lana over
    the next several days...keeping the tropical cyclone moving on a
    slightly north of west track through the forecast period. The
    forecast track is near the middle of the envelope of the dynamic
    models. I have shifted the track slightly further south since lana
    is now expected to weaken a bit faster. The forecast track has lana
    passing over 250 miles south of the main hawaiian islands tonight
    and sunday.

    Over the past 24 hours lana has been moving over an area of slightly
    warmer sea surface temperatures...around 27.5c that may have helped
    produce the burst of convection last evening. Lana should now be
    moving over slightly cooler water for the next 24 hours...around 1c
    cooler. These ssts would still be adequate to maintain the storm but
    increasing vertical shear is likely to weaken the storm. Since the
    latest satellite imagery has already shown lana being decapitated by
    the vertical shear we have forecast weakening to occur a bit faster
    than the previous forecast.


    Forecast positions and max winds

    initial 01/2100z 14.5n 153.4w 45 kt
    12hr vt 02/0600z 14.8n 155.8w 40 kt
    24hr vt 02/1800z 15.2n 158.9w 35 kt
    36hr vt 03/0600z 15.7n 161.9w 30 kt
    48hr vt 03/1800z 15.9n 164.7w 25 kt...dissipating
    72hr vt 04/1800z 16.4n 169.9w 25 kt...dissipating
    96hr vt 05/1800z 16.9n 175.3w 20 kt...remnant low
    120hr vt 06/1800z 17.3n 179.4e 20 kt...remnant low

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    forecaster donaldson
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    tropical storm lana discussion number 11
    nws central pacific hurricane center honolulu hi ep062009
    500 pm hst sat aug 01 2009

    convection around lana continues to pulse. At 1000 am hst...nearly
    all of the convection around lana had dissipated but more convection
    has now developed north of the center. The low level circulation
    center remains mostly exposed so we still have high confidence in
    the center location. The presence of the exposed low level center
    and the small amount of deep convection near the center are
    indications that lana is struggling to survive.

    The forecast track follows the previous package closely with a very
    slight shift to the south. Lana continues to move westward to the
    south of a low to mid-level subtropical ridge. The mid level ridge
    is expected to build west southwest over the next several
    days...keeping the tropical cyclone moving on a slightly north of
    west track through the forecast period. Lana has been tracking along
    the south side of the envelope of the dynamic models. I have kept
    the track nearly the same...with just a slight shift farther south
    of the previous track. The forecast track has lana passing about 300
    miles south of south point...the southernmost point in the hawaiian
    islands...around 800 pm tonight.

    As usual...the intensity forecast is much less straightforward than
    the track forecast. Over the past 24 hours lana has been moving over
    an area of slightly warmer sea surface temperatures...around
    27.5c...and higher ocean heat content...that may be helping lana
    survive. Lana should now start moving over slightly cooler water for
    the next 24 hours. These ssts would still be adequate to maintain
    the storm if the environment was otherwise favorable.so probably the
    main factor that will determine lanas intensity will be vertical
    shear.

    There is a northeast to southwest trough aloft just northwest of
    kauai. Southwest winds on the southeast side of this trough are
    producing strong vertical shear. Lana is just on the edge of this
    strong shear. As lana moves west over the next few days...the trough
    aloft and the shear zone will also move west. I expect the shear
    will be strong enough to kill lana over the next 96 hours or
    so...but it is not a sure thing. Lana will start moving over warmer
    water again west of 160w and that could give the cyclone a new lease
    on life.



    Forecast positions and max winds

    initial 02/0300z 14.5n 155.2w 45 kt
    12hr vt 02/1200z 14.8n 157.6w 40 kt
    24hr vt 03/0000z 15.2n 160.6w 35 kt
    36hr vt 03/1200z 15.5n 163.4w 35 kt
    48hr vt 04/0000z 15.8n 166.2w 30 kt
    72hr vt 05/0000z 16.3n 171.4w 25 kt...dissipating
    96hr vt 06/0000z 16.7n 176.7w 20 kt...remnant low
    120hr vt 07/0000z 17.0n 178.0e 20 kt...remnant low

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    tropical storm lana discussion number 12
    nws central pacific hurricane center honolulu hi ep062009
    1100 pm hst sat aug 01 2009

    at 800 pm hst...0600z...the low level circulation center of lana was
    due south of the big island and moving to the west at a steady 16
    kt. Deep convection continues to pulse...with thunderstorms just
    northeast of the cyclone center at this time. Confidence in the
    center position is good as is the cyclone movement. Jtwc...sab and
    hfo all came in with final t-numbers of 3.0. The official intensity
    therefore remains at 45 kt.

    The forecast track follows the previous track with only a small
    shift to the south. Lana lies in easterly flow south of a
    subtropical high and ridge. The low- and mid-level ridge is located
    north of hawaii and is forecast to build westward over the next 120
    hours...keeping lana well within the trade wind belt. The forecast
    therefore keeps lana on a westward track close to the previous
    track and just south of most of the tightly grouped objective
    aides.

    An upper-level low centered southwest of kauai near 18n 166w has
    been stationary for the last 24 hours. Southwest winds aloft east
    of the low are riding up over the low- and mid-level easterlies
    resulting in substantial vertical shearing. A consensus of global
    models keep the upper low near its present position over the next
    24 to 30 hours. They then weaken and lift the upper low out to the
    northwest...resulting in a slackening of the shear. The persistent
    shear should take its toll on lana...forcing it to slowly spin down
    through the forecast period. The intensity forecast is in good
    agreement with ships and icon.

    Forecast positions and max winds

    initial 02/0900z 14.5n 156.7w 45 kt
    12hr vt 02/1800z 14.7n 159.0w 40 kt
    24hr vt 03/0600z 15.0n 162.0w 35 kt
    36hr vt 03/1800z 15.3n 164.9w 35 kt
    48hr vt 04/0600z 15.6n 167.6w 30 kt
    72hr vt 05/0600z 16.1n 173.1w 25 kt...dissipating
    96hr vt 06/0600z 16.6n 178.3w 20 kt...remnant low
    120hr vt 07/0600z 17.1n 176.2e 20 kt...remnant low

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    forecaster craig


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    tropical storm lana discussion number 14
    nws central pacific hurricane center honolulu hi ep062009
    1100 am hst sun aug 02 2009

    at 800 am hst...1800 utc...lana showed signs of weakening with deep
    convection deteriorating in the northeast quadrant of the system.
    The low level cloud center is gradually becoming more removed from
    this area of deep convection. Phfo and sab came up with final t
    numbers of 3.0 while jtwc went with 2.5. Deep convection has had a
    history of pulsing with this system. The official intensity
    estimate remains at 45 kt but the current intensity may be a bit
    generous if deep convection does not reform near the systems center
    over the next several hours.

    Lana lies in deep easterly flow south of a subtropical ridge located
    north of hawaii. Global models are in good agreement in building
    the low and mid level ridge to the west...keeping lana well within
    the broad easterly trade wind belt. The official track remains
    nearly the same as the previous forecast and lies just south of the
    vast majority of model consensus which is closely grouped overall.
    Forward motion remains in good agreement with most of the objective
    aides and is an extension of the old track.

    An elongated upper level trough lies to the west and southwest of
    kauai. The uw-cimss output shows south to southeasterly shear
    estimated to be about 25 kt in the vicinity of lana. This should
    continue to inhibit any chance of re-intensification. This trough
    is expected to move westward over the next few days and gradually
    weaken with time. With lana expected to remain in a hostile shear
    environment...gradual weakening is expected through the forecast
    period which is in general agreement with intensity guidance...with
    only the ukmet and shifor5 keeping lana as a weak tropical storm
    through 120 hours. This may be due to warmer sea surface
    temperatures along the forecast track well southwest of the main
    hawaiian islands.

    Forecast positions and max winds

    initial 02/2100z 14.5n 158.9w 45 kt
    12hr vt 03/0600z 14.6n 160.9w 40 kt
    24hr vt 03/1800z 15.0n 163.7w 35 kt
    36hr vt 04/0600z 15.3n 166.5w 35 kt
    48hr vt 04/1800z 15.6n 169.6w 30 kt
    72hr vt 05/1800z 16.2n 175.3w 25 kt...dissipating
    96hr vt 06/1800z 16.8n 179.0e 20 kt...remnant low
    120hr vt 07/1800z 17.4n 173.7e 20 kt...remnant low

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    tropical depression lana discussion number 16
    nws central pacific hurricane center honolulu hi ep062009
    1100 pm hst sun aug 02 2009

    lana is devoid of deep convection within 60 nm of center as of 800
    pm hst...0600 utc monday...keeping this system no stronger than
    depression status for this forecast package. Cphc had to rely on
    met to derive a current intensity of 2.0...while jtwc judged this
    system too weak to classify. Satellite loops show that lana is
    marked by a swirl of low clouds...while scattered to spotty broken
    high clouds fly across the center towards the northeast. The
    official initial intensity is set at 30 kt with these winds likely
    confined to the northern semicircle.

    Lana remains in deep easterly flow south of the subtropical ridge.
    Global models continue to build this ridge as lana moves
    westward...keeping lana well within the broad easterly trade wind
    belt. The official track remains the same as the previous
    package...lying just south of the majority of closely grouped model
    consensus. System motion remains in good agreement with most of the
    objective aides.

    High clouds moving rapidly across this system towards the northeast
    betray the presence of debilitating shear. Uw-cimms output shows
    southwesterly shear at about 26 kt across lana...while ships
    initializes at 34 kt from the same direction. Ships forecasts shear
    to remain chiefly in the 30 to 40 kt range through the next 120
    hours. Individual thunderstorms love shear...so convection may
    occasionally flare near the center in the near future...but with
    shear this strong lana is unlikely to redevelop into a stronger
    tropical system as a whole. Therefore...the intensity forecast
    calls for lana to weaken into a remnant low by 36 hours.

    Forecast positions and max winds

    initial 03/0900z 14.5n 162.0w 30 kt
    12hr vt 03/1800z 14.8n 164.2w 25 kt
    24hr vt 04/0600z 15.2n 167.3w 20 kt...dissipating
    36hr vt 04/1800z 15.5n 170.2w 20 kt...remnant low
    48hr vt 05/0600z 15.8n 173.1w 20 kt...remnant low

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    forecaster powell
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    03/1200 UTC 14.9N 163.1W TOO WEAK LANA -- Central Pacific
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