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View Poll Results: Was Cunard right to sell QE2 when they did?
Yes, they got a great deal 4 44.44%
No, they should have kept her in service until 2010 1 11.11%
No, they should have found her a home in the UK 4 44.44%
Other 0 0%
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:42 PM Lanky Lad is online now     #1 (permalink)
Was Cunard right to sell QE2 when they did?

QE2 was sold in 2007 for $100,000,000.00, I am sure Cunard would not have got for her now. I doubt that QE2 could have carried on past 2010, so my question is, Was Cunard right to sell her when they did?

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Old 07-17-2009, 07:45 PM sue miller is offline     #2 (permalink)
I don't think they were. I would have kept her till Solas would leave them no choice. Another 3 years for passengers to enjoy her.

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Old 07-17-2009, 07:46 PM Char is offline     #3 (permalink)
Stephen, what options did Cunard have? If she wouldn't be "sea worthy" past 2010 what else could Cunard have done?

What would YOU like to have seen done rather than selling her for a hotel venture?

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Old 07-17-2009, 07:49 PM Lanky Lad is online now     #4 (permalink)
I think they had to sell her as a hotel, or they could have kept her as a hotel in Southampton still under the Cunard flag.

Whether or not they picked the right buyer is another matter.

From a pure business point of view, if they were going to sell her, they timed it just right and got the best possible price.

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Old 07-17-2009, 07:54 PM Lanky Lad is online now     #5 (permalink)
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Stephen, what options did Cunard have? If she wouldn't be "sea worthy" past 2010 what else could Cunard have done?

What would YOU like to have seen done rather than selling her for a hotel venture?
I think it's a matter more of who they sold her to than the fact they sold her and that the sale included everything on board. . Still it could work out for the best, she may stay looking like the ship I know and love and Cunard got a nice cash injection, maybe Queen Elizabeth would not have been ordered wihtout it.

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Old 07-17-2009, 07:56 PM Char is offline     #6 (permalink)
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I think they had to sell her as a hotel, or they could have kept her as a hotel in Southampton still under the Cunard flag.

Whether or not they picked the right buyer is another matter.

From a purely business point of view, if they were going to sell her, they timed it just right and got the best possible price.
I'm not sure they got the right buyer, either. They haven't been able to go forward with their original plans and now are talking about South Africa for berthing her as a hotel.

I wonder if Cunard could have operated her as a hotel? Would they have had to incorporate a whole new corporation for a land based operation? Could have been the economics of it not being a good financial risk.

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Old 07-17-2009, 08:04 PM Lanky Lad is online now     #7 (permalink)
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I'm not sure they got the right buyer, either. They haven't been able to go forward with their original plans and now are talking about South Africa for berthing her as a hotel.

I wonder if Cunard could have operated her as a hotel? Would they have had to incorporate a whole new corporation for a land based operation? Could have been the economics of it not being a good financial risk.
Who knows, but Saga are planning to operate Saga Rose as a hotel when she retires, but it remains to be seen if that works.

I think all we can do is watch and hope QE2 never gets anywhere near Alang.

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Old 07-17-2009, 08:05 PM Char is offline     #8 (permalink)
Oh yes!

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Old 07-18-2009, 04:39 AM reggierail is offline     #9 (permalink)
Cunard could buy her back for a lot less than they got for her. Sell high and buy low.

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Old 07-19-2009, 12:21 PM nealberk is offline     #10 (permalink)
Stephen, Selling her was a good idea and I think they timed it perfectly getting top dollar for future development. But, yes, I am like you, I have to hold my nose when I hear about the buyer and the plans they plan to put her to.

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